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Yeah...I've always known they take others' stuff...but I'm not a pro & don't have a service -
thanks rolltideOriginally posted by rolltide View Post
know you've mentioned before that this happens and now i see it with my own eyes ..will have to reconsider providing full ,if any,
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( ) in football and baskets is avg ats or ou margin..baseball it's avg odds and run differential for sides and totals..winners and late scratches usually not recognized in the horse thread but on occasion will mention.. always double check race and horse # if you play .. I do lose a lot more races than I win.. playing in advance, late odds moves and high takeout very hard to overcome .. derby future opinion post 3713 on page 149 (horse plays)
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It's unfortunate but it's the true nature of any business since the beginning of time. Just look at all the tech companies that steal innovations from their competitors. And they spend millions every year just to spy on others. I gave up caring about it years ago but just because I don't run a service biz & I want everyone to have winning systems I find. They can have all the losing ones, too.Originally posted by bleeker View PostComment
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it's not as good and also less entertaining without giving the parameters john ..ultimately may just continue to do things as I have been..like you enjoy sharing my systemsOriginally posted by Riderx View Post_______________________________________________
( ) in football and baskets is avg ats or ou margin..baseball it's avg odds and run differential for sides and totals..winners and late scratches usually not recognized in the horse thread but on occasion will mention.. always double check race and horse # if you play .. I do lose a lot more races than I win.. playing in advance, late odds moves and high takeout very hard to overcome .. derby future opinion post 3713 on page 149 (horse plays)
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I don't blame anyone for holding their systems but I'm going to keep on doing what we do. I cut my teeth on the 'ol sports data base 25 years ago & we've been posting systems ever since then, especially at the 'ol talksport site, where some of those guys went pay. Our #1 goal is to win & take the book & hopefully help others along the way. And it's especially rewarding when you find a gold nugget buried so deep & you spent hard time & hard work finding it. It's like I said before, I have boxes & boxes full of hand-written note pads full of systems & I keep telling myself I'm going to go thru them because I know there's gold in there. Anyways, it's going to be interesting where the line & total are for the KC/Balty game because...
Any playoff team at home vs a non-div opp, team was off a bye before last game which they won by more than +10 s/u, total is between 40 & 50 & opponent was a dog last game:
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Originally posted by Riderx View Post
going to continue posting and more than likely won't be partial explanations .. not put off enough by what happened to stop doing it altogether
found something interesting already but I'll wait for the cc BT thread to be started
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( ) in football and baskets is avg ats or ou margin..baseball it's avg odds and run differential for sides and totals..winners and late scratches usually not recognized in the horse thread but on occasion will mention.. always double check race and horse # if you play .. I do lose a lot more races than I win.. playing in advance, late odds moves and high takeout very hard to overcome .. derby future opinion post 3713 on page 149 (horse plays)
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Having read all the comments I would like to address this, I did in fact use that system in a writeup and even reworked it a bit, I had 3 systems on the total in that game and decided to use one that was smaller in size. I normally use just variations of some parameters. The system itself at 7-0 is very nice but never enough to make a play on that alone, I also used some stat models as well. As someone who frequently sees my handcrafted systems used by other cappers I do see the frustration so I can understand why Bleek, Tide, Rider and others are annoyed, so if I get bashed a bit so be it, Im not going to disrespect the forum with going back and forth with anyone who is upset, and to be fair I will post some of my original stuff in the threads and those can feel free to use what they like and rework as well. RV-GCComment
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