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  • #31
    Originally posted by BT View Post
    Didn’t GB give up 30 points to Carolina on the road a few weeks ago (Christmas Eve)?? How are they going to keep SF below 35?
    They're not. GB isn't just taking one step up in class, they're taking a whole flight of stairs up. The Cowboys are a f*cked-up team, the 49'ers aren't.

    The one game I'm struggling with trying to get a handle on is Bucs/Lions right now, but I'll get it.

    Oh & btw, if anyone's looking for a live dog to win s/u, look no further than the Texans...

    Yep

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    • #32
      I was starting to like all 4 Unders but I defer the totals to Glenn. He's a h*lluva' lot better than I am on those.

      but

      I just pulled this up. Dallas ran a total of 85 plays (rushes+passes) & Green Bay less than 60.

      If this makes any sense. Any non-div dog of more than +7 off a s/u win as a dog in which their opponent ran more than 80 plays (rushes+passes), which was more than 20 plays more than team:

      KillerSports.com

      0-5 s/u
      &
      0-4-1 ats
      &
      5-0 o/u

      Man, those last 3 final score margins make me Wentz...-11, -10 & -11...Geeez...and 2 of those 3 were in the playoffs...both final scores of 24-35 each

      but

      that 5-0 o/u has me liking the Over 50'

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Riderx View Post
        I was starting to like all 4 Unders but I defer the totals to Glenn. He's a h*lluva' lot better than I am on those.

        but

        I just pulled this up. Dallas ran a total of 85 plays (rushes+passes) & Green Bay less than 60.

        If this makes any sense. Any non-div dog of more than +7 off a s/u win as a dog in which their opponent ran more than 80 plays (rushes+passes), which was more than 20 plays more than team:

        KillerSports.com

        0-5 s/u
        &
        0-4-1 ats
        &
        5-0 o/u

        Man, those last 3 final score margins make me Wentz...-11, -10 & -11...Geeez...and 2 of those 3 were in the playoffs...both final scores of 24-35 each

        but

        that 5-0 o/u has me liking the Over 50'
        closest line/total match was the 39.5 cover..i'm still on gb but amazing margins against them here

        https://killersports.com/nfl/query?_...+S+D+Q+L+%21++
        Last edited by bleeker; 01-19-2024, 01:20 AM.
        _______________________________________________
        ( ) in football and baskets is avg ats or ou margin..baseball it's avg odds and run differential for sides and totals..winners and late scratches usually not recognized in the horse thread but on occasion will mention.. always double check race and horse # if you play .. I do lose a lot more races than I win.. playing in advance, late odds moves and high takeout very hard to overcome .. derby future opinion post 3713 on page 149 (horse plays)

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        • #34
          Originally posted by bleeker View Post

          closest line/total match was the 39.5 cover..i'm still on gb but amazing margins against them here

          https://killersports.com/nfl/query?_...+S+D+Q+L+%21++
          That is the proverbial "nail-in-the-coffin"

          avg final score: 3.3 - 44.3

          avg margin: -41.0

          avg ats margin: -30.83

          avg t/o's: 4.0 - 1.7

          avg total yards: 180.7 - 535.4

          money-maker in so many different ways

          That my friend Glenn is a game of the year play. Nothing left to say.

          (Which brings me back to post#13, which I will post later, multiple systems but all Unders)
          Last edited by Riderx; 01-19-2024, 07:26 AM.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Riderx View Post

            That is the proverbial "nail-in-the-coffin"

            avg final score: 3.3 - 44.3

            avg margin: -41.0

            avg ats margin: -30.83

            avg t/o's: 4.0 - 1.7

            avg total yards: 180.7 - 535.4

            money-maker in so many different ways

            That my friend Glenn is a game of the year play. Nothing left to say.

            (Which brings me back to post#13, which I will post later, multiple systems but all Unders)

            still a little tied to playoff systems for playoff games and as you know I've been round specific..did want to share that one with you though as the numbers are outstanding (understand base of the system is yours) .. one of the things I like about this thread is putting up early thoughts and not having to commit right away .. definitely going to think this one over a little more..will post a final pick (even if it's passing the game) before 3pm tomorrow

            _______________________________________________
            ( ) in football and baskets is avg ats or ou margin..baseball it's avg odds and run differential for sides and totals..winners and late scratches usually not recognized in the horse thread but on occasion will mention.. always double check race and horse # if you play .. I do lose a lot more races than I win.. playing in advance, late odds moves and high takeout very hard to overcome .. derby future opinion post 3713 on page 149 (horse plays)

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            • #36
              This one's kinda' weird, but I like weird...

              Non-div road dogs in the playoffs, team has at least 12 Unders on the season:

              tS(U)>11
              AD
              NDIV
              playoffs=1

              0-4 s/u
              &
              0-4 ats
              &
              3-1 o/u

              against TB+6' & KC+2'

              Dogs of +3 or more:

              KillerSports.com

              0-3 s/u...by -19.33ppg
              &
              0-3 ats...by -13.17ppg
              &
              3-0 o/u

              avg final score: 16.0 35.3...& all 3 final scores look the same...similar lines & totals

              avg t/o's: 2.0 vs 0.0

              against TB+

              Detroit-6'
              &
              Over 48'

              hmm...

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              • #37
                Playoff road dogs between +6.5 & +12.5 vs opponent off a bye, team scored 0 td's in previous match-up:

                playoffs=1
                P:TD=0
                AD
                o:rest>10
                6.5<line<12.5

                KillerSports.com

                2-2 s/u
                &
                4-0 ats
                &
                3-1 o/u

                *****the 2 s/u losses were by -3pts each...in OT*****

                Texans+9'
                &
                Texans m/l


                of note: if the Ravens win s/u, they win the CC game & go to SB...if the Texans win s/u, they lose the CC game

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by bleeker View Post


                  still a little tied to playoff systems for playoff games and as you know I've been round specific..did want to share that one with you though as the numbers are outstanding (understand base of the system is yours) .. one of the things I like about this thread is putting up early thoughts and not having to commit right away .. definitely going to think this one over a little more..will post a final pick (even if it's passing the game) before 3pm tomorrow
                  Last edited by bleeker; 01-19-2024, 01:08 PM.
                  _______________________________________________
                  ( ) in football and baskets is avg ats or ou margin..baseball it's avg odds and run differential for sides and totals..winners and late scratches usually not recognized in the horse thread but on occasion will mention.. always double check race and horse # if you play .. I do lose a lot more races than I win.. playing in advance, late odds moves and high takeout very hard to overcome .. derby future opinion post 3713 on page 149 (horse plays)

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                  • #39

                    34-9 (2-0) = HOU, TB
                    13-2 (1-1) = BAL, SF
                    39-9 (2-1) = GB TB KC
                    39-12 (1-0) = TB KC
                    63-24 (1-1) = BUF
                    67-28 (2-2) = SF BAL
                    55-16 (1-1) = KC
                    60-23 (1-1) = KC
                    84-35 (0-1) = DET HOU
                    36-8 (0-0) = DET KC
                    49-19 (2-0) = KC

                    17-5 & 4-18 ou = KC and under (away total <=46, won last game by 6+) note: dogs perfect 9-0 SUATS
                    10-50 ou (0-11 ou L11) = BAL u, SF u
                    24-1 ou = KC/BUF over (week 20+, allowed <288.6 yards last game)



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                    • #40
                      Sorry rolltide. You are definitely the 3rd leg of the bleeker/Riderx podcast! Didn’t mean to leave you out. Appreciate your contributions!!

                      John, we are seemingly very aligned this week on our picks. Hope that’s a good thing!!!

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                      • #41
                        rolltide, what am I missing on this...17-5 & 4-18 ou = KC and under (away total,=46, won last game by 6+) note: dogs perfect 9-0 SUATS

                        KillerSports.com

                        14-24 s/u
                        &
                        15-22-1 ats
                        &
                        18-19-1 o/u

                        Thanks in advance

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by BT View Post
                          Sorry rolltide. You are definitely the 3rd leg of the bleeker/Riderx podcast! Didn’t mean to leave you out. Appreciate your contributions!!

                          John, we are seemingly very aligned this week on our picks. Hope that’s a good thing!!!

                          Me too, Brian...me too...

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                          • #43
                            rolltide, no worries...I think I got it...

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                            • #44
                              divisional
                              no bye
                              away
                              artificial
                              op: TOM <=0
                              total 44-59
                              dog <=7
                              2010


                              7-0 o/u (12.43)

                              det/(tam) 50
                              buf/(kc) 45.5

                              over






                              https://killersports.com/nfl/query?s...mary&_qt=games
                              _______________________________________________
                              ( ) in football and baskets is avg ats or ou margin..baseball it's avg odds and run differential for sides and totals..winners and late scratches usually not recognized in the horse thread but on occasion will mention.. always double check race and horse # if you play .. I do lose a lot more races than I win.. playing in advance, late odds moves and high takeout very hard to overcome .. derby future opinion post 3713 on page 149 (horse plays)

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                              • #45
                                both of the above games (side/total) matchup well with some of the bigger over margins
                                _______________________________________________
                                ( ) in football and baskets is avg ats or ou margin..baseball it's avg odds and run differential for sides and totals..winners and late scratches usually not recognized in the horse thread but on occasion will mention.. always double check race and horse # if you play .. I do lose a lot more races than I win.. playing in advance, late odds moves and high takeout very hard to overcome .. derby future opinion post 3713 on page 149 (horse plays)

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