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  • Week 17 queries for our braintrust

    Go to it guys. Thanks.

  • #2
    Since the NFL went to an extended season in '21, any week 17 non-div dog of less than +7 vs an opp with at least 11 wins:

    season>=2021
    week=17
    D
    NDIV
    line<7
    o:wins>10

    KillerSports.com

    3-0 s/u
    &
    3-0 ats

    I know Brian will like this one...

    Miami+4
    &
    Miami m/l


    (road teams are 0-2 o/u...Under 47 Mia/Balt)

    Happy New Year!!!
    Last edited by Riderx; 12-29-2023, 06:17 PM.

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    • #3
      Since the '02 re-align, non-div conf road dogs with at least 10 wins off a s/u win as a road fav, team was not in the playoffs last year & not a playoff game:

      season>=2002
      ACD
      NDIV
      p:AFW
      wins>9
      playoffs=0
      tpS(playoffs=1)=0

      KillerSports.com

      2-0 o/u...by 10.25ppg

      avg total: 54.2

      Over 53' Lions/Cowboys on Saturday night

      I'm scratching this play...
      Last edited by Riderx; 12-29-2023, 09:32 AM.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Riderx View Post
        Since the NFL went to an extended season in '21, any week 17 non-div dog of less than +7 vs an opp with at least 11 wins:

        season>=2021
        week=17
        D
        NDIV
        line<7

        KillerSports.com

        3-0 s/u
        &
        3-0 ats

        I know Brian will like this one...

        Miami+4
        &
        Miami m/l


        (road teams are 0-2 o/u...Under 47 Mia/Balt)

        Happy New Year!!!
        I sure as sh*t am happy to see this, x!! Maybe the short week for Balt, and playing a physical game against SF, will benefit Miami. Thanks, bud!!

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        • #5
          Any way to find out how a projected #1 conference seed (Balt) does the week after playing the other conference projected #1 seed (SF) on the road, when playing at home? Maybe after wk 14 and when they will be home the current week.

          And vice versa for SF … home last week (for conference top seeds) and then on the road the current week?

          Hope that’s clear. Thanks fellas!!

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          • #6
            Brian, I'm just going off of last week's non-conf teams where both had 10+ wins, as we looked at in the braintrust thread last week...

            if they were at Home & now Road favs in week 17:

            KillerSports.com

            &

            if they were on the Road & now Home favs in week 17:

            KillerSports.com

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            • #7
              The 49'ers are in a rare spot... Any non-div conf road fav of more than -10, off a s/u loss as a home fav in which they lost ats by more than -14pts:

              p:HFL
              ACF
              line<-10
              NDIV
              p:ats margin<-14

              KillerSports.com

              2-0 ats...SF-13'
              &
              0-2 o/u...Under 48'

              '91...Wash won the SB
              '16...NE won the SB
              '23...SF ?

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              • #8
                In week 17 since '21 teams with 11 or more wins are 2-8 ats

                week=17 and season>=2021 and S(W@team, N=15)>=11


                https://killersports.com/nfl/query?_...+S+D+Q+L+%21++

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                • #9
                  i still have to run my week specific stuff but here's my normal weekly systems

                  32-1 = LAR (away pacific vs east after -1/+1 turnover margin, good offense)
                  21-1 = NYJ (oppose late game NDIV fav covered b2b games but lost or won <3 h2h last game)
                  86-29 = NYJ, CAR
                  53-6 = ATL
                  39-9 = SF
                  34-4 = SF
                  45-5 = NYJ
                  54-21 = DAL, BUG, PHI (7th home game, 6-0 ytd, 5+ fav. 70-7 SU)
                  28-6 = SF
                  44-12 = KC (bad turnover team vs NDIV)
                  54-21 = LAR, SF
                  53-22 = BUF
                  66-26 = ATL
                  53-12 = NYG
                  35-2 = SF (late season, 2+ straight losses bad team vs good team DD dog)

                  26-71 ou = LAC/DEN u
                  4-52 ou = DAL/DET u (bad LY off away fav 6+ win vs team off negative turnovers)
                  2-24 ou = TB/NO u (after b2b2b wins as dog or tiny fav)
                  7-62 ou = SF/WAS u, MIN/GB u (fav, great LY, off loss as dog or small fav giving up 4+ sacks and 1+ turnover)
                  98-201 ou = DAL/DET u (ran 64+ plays vs opp that ran <52 plays in a 1 score game)
                  8-61 ou = WAS/SF u
                  9-75 ou = WAS/SF u
                  15-57 ou = PIT/SEA u (non-conf SUND/MON low total, AFC away)

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                  • #10
                    For TNF...

                    Any road dog of more than +3 on short rest, off a s/u win in which their opp scored more than 24pts:

                    AD
                    line>3
                    rest<4
                    p:W
                    po:points>24

                    KillerSports.com

                    0-7 s/u...by -26.43ppg
                    &
                    0-7 ats...by -18.86ppg

                    Avg final score: 12.4 - 38.9

                    against Jets+7'

                    take Clev-7'


                    &

                    KillerSports.com

                    2-0 s/u...by 25.5ppg
                    &
                    2-0 ats...by 13.5ppg

                    Avg final score: 30.5 - 5.0

                    opp avg total yards: 145/game

                    Clev-7'
                    Last edited by Riderx; 12-28-2023, 12:01 AM.

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                    • #11
                      Just since the new 17-game schedule started in '21...

                      Week 17 home teams before going on the road:

                      KillerSports.com

                      &

                      Week 17 road teams before being at home:

                      KillerSports.com

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                      • #12
                        Possible shoot-out...

                        Since the '02 re-align, week 17 non-conf home favs on at least a 3-game losing streak:

                        HF
                        streak<-2
                        week=17
                        season>=2002
                        conference!=o:conference

                        KillerSports.com

                        0-2 s/u
                        &
                        0-2 ats
                        &
                        2-0 o/u...by 16.25ppg

                        scores of: 28-31 & 24-31

                        avg total: 40.8

                        avg total combined rush+pass yards: 881 (no defense)

                        all 3 games on grass

                        Car+6'
                        &
                        Car m/l
                        &
                        Over 38

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                        • #13
                          After week 2, dogs of more than +3 on short rest, team scored more than 21pts in the 1st-Half & the total went Over by more than 14pts last game:

                          week>2
                          line>3
                          rest<4
                          p:P1+p:P2>21
                          p:ou margin>14

                          KillerSports.com

                          0-7 s/u...by -26.29ppg
                          &
                          0-7 ats...by -16.93ppg

                          if their opp is off a road game:

                          KillerSports.com

                          0-3 s/u...by -30.00ppg
                          &
                          0-3 ats...by -21.00ppg
                          &
                          3-0 o/u

                          s/u losses by -27, -32 & -31

                          scores of: 14-41, 10-42 & 21-52

                          avg t/o's: 3.0 - 0.3

                          their opps scored DD in the 1st, 2nd & 3rd Qtrs in all 3 games

                          up 27-0, 28-0 & 31-14 at the Halves

                          up 41-7, 42-0 & 45-14 after the 3rd

                          Cleve-7'

                          might be able to find some good alternate game plays in there, too

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by rolltide View Post
                            i still have to run my week specific stuff but here's my normal weekly systems

                            32-1 = LAR (away pacific vs east after -1/+1 turnover margin, good offense)
                            21-1 = NYJ (oppose late game NDIV fav covered b2b games but lost or won <3 h2h last game)
                            86-29 = NYJ, CAR
                            53-6 = ATL
                            39-9 = SF
                            34-4 = SF
                            45-5 = NYJ
                            54-21 = DAL, BUG, PHI (7th home game, 6-0 ytd, 5+ fav. 70-7 SU)
                            28-6 = SF
                            44-12 = KC (bad turnover team vs NDIV)
                            54-21 = LAR, SF
                            53-22 = BUF
                            66-26 = ATL
                            53-12 = NYG
                            35-2 = SF (late season, 2+ straight losses bad team vs good team DD dog)

                            26-71 ou = LAC/DEN u
                            4-52 ou = DAL/DET u (bad LY off away fav 6+ win vs team off negative turnovers)
                            2-24 ou = TB/NO u (after b2b2b wins as dog or tiny fav)
                            7-62 ou = SF/WAS u, MIN/GB u (fav, great LY, off loss as dog or small fav giving up 4+ sacks and 1+ turnover)
                            98-201 ou = DAL/DET u (ran 64+ plays vs opp that ran <52 plays in a 1 score game)
                            8-61 ou = WAS/SF u
                            9-75 ou = WAS/SF u
                            15-57 ou = PIT/SEA u (non-conf SUND/MON low total, AFC away)
                            week 17 specific
                            40-16 = PHI, KC
                            32-9 = JAX, KC
                            31-4 = NO (DIV, 1 less win, <9 wins, and <3 sacks per game)
                            20-5 = CHI
                            58-30 = BUF, SF
                            73-36 = NO, LAC
                            26-0 = BUF (11+ fav won 10+ last year week > 16 and season > 1997 and line<-10.5 and H and PRSW>9 and total>35.5 and p:dpa<21 and not 0<p:ats margin<4.5 and wins<16)

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Riderx View Post
                              After week 2, dogs of more than +3 on short rest, team scored more than 21pts in the 1st-Half & the total went Over by more than 14pts last game:

                              week>2
                              line>3
                              rest<4
                              p:P1+p:P2>21
                              p:ou margin>14

                              KillerSports.com

                              0-7 s/u...by -26.29ppg
                              &
                              0-7 ats...by -16.93ppg

                              if their opp is off a road game:

                              KillerSports.com

                              0-3 s/u...by -30.00ppg
                              &
                              0-3 ats...by -21.00ppg
                              &
                              3-0 o/u

                              s/u losses by -27, -32 & -31

                              scores of: 14-41, 10-42 & 21-52

                              avg t/o's: 3.0 - 0.3

                              their opps scored DD in the 1st, 2nd & 3rd Qtrs in all 3 games

                              up 27-0, 28-0 & 31-14 at the Halves

                              up 41-7, 42-0 & 45-14 after the 3rd

                              Cleve-7'

                              might be able to find some good alternate game plays in there, too
                              nice system..great call !
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