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( ) in football and baskets is avg ats or ou margin..baseball it's avg odds and run differential for sides and totals..winners and late scratches usually not recognized in the horse thread but on occasion will mention.. always double check race and horse # if you play .. I do lose a lot more races than I win.. playing in advance, late odds moves and high takeout very hard to overcome .. derby future opinion post 3713 on page 149 (horse plays)
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( ) in football and baskets is avg ats or ou margin..baseball it's avg odds and run differential for sides and totals..winners and late scratches usually not recognized in the horse thread but on occasion will mention.. always double check race and horse # if you play .. I do lose a lot more races than I win.. playing in advance, late odds moves and high takeout very hard to overcome .. derby future opinion post 3713 on page 149 (horse plays)
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R1 #5 funny feather (8-1)
R2 (2) #7 cool lily lou (20-1)
speed of the speed.. 2nd start on dirt (3rd career).. 7lb bug.. last race journeyman
side note: the 6 is making her 6th career start.. triple digit odds first 5..i always feel I've seen about everything with this game but never that
R3 # 4 princess carrigan (10-1)
R4 (4) #2 krachenwagen (2-1)
even though he came off the pace last time to beat the 1 his speed figures far superior and think he'll be sent here.. if not should be able to sit just off him and they'll probably slow it down
R5 #2 tio will (20-1)
think he's showed some life in his first 3 even though ultimately finishing far back..2 lengths off the pace call last out and finished with a solid figure despite being far back.. winner ran a graded stakes quality figure and it was a msw race..had to break from the 11 post to boot.. so 3rd off a short layoff gets on turf first time and pedigree well above average for that.. dam has been very productive with turf winners and overall.. now the bad part and its not minor.. leonel reyes a slightly below average jock(I go by %'s) but poor on the turf.. that will only help the price and like this guy as a longie
R6 #6 broadway pete (4-1)
R7 #8 win d' oro
to me a hidden horse
3yo
very expensive yearling purchase..
debut ellis fine..
start 2 kentucky downs always forgivable..
3yo debut troubled trip and finished 8th but <5 lengths back.. solid figure
sloppy off turf
R7 #9 senzazione (20-1)
first time gelding.
2nd start did nothing debut a t huge odds.. well did show speed to 4f
lots of bad turf jocks in here but berrios not one of them
like the dam sire monteju one of the all time great euro sires and don't see much of them here
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R1 (5) #10 mayan ghost (8-1)
R2 (6) #3 delp (6-1)
R3 (7) #1 moonshine miss (5-1)
R4 (9) #2 dancin in paradise (4-1)
R5 (8) #3 master of domain (3-1)
R10 #1 ollie's candy (12-1) apple blossom grade 1
runs well almost everytime on either surface vs top company in her short 11 race career.. the only poor effort was off an extended 9 month layoff and first time with current trainer sadler.. I think last was a useful race off a 4.5 month layoff and could see improvement 2nd try.. pace was very fast last start and she was close.. it was a grade 1 and the horse who beat her draws the 14 post and had a race under her belt prior..joel on fire here and sadler having a very solid meet..
R11 #1 timeline (4-1)Last edited by bleeker; 04-18-2020, 03:33 PM._______________________________________________
( ) in football and baskets is avg ats or ou margin..baseball it's avg odds and run differential for sides and totals..winners and late scratches usually not recognized in the horse thread but on occasion will mention.. always double check race and horse # if you play .. I do lose a lot more races than I win.. playing in advance, late odds moves and high takeout very hard to overcome .. derby future opinion post 3713 on page 149 (horse plays)
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( ) in football and baskets is avg ats or ou margin..baseball it's avg odds and run differential for sides and totals..winners and late scratches usually not recognized in the horse thread but on occasion will mention.. always double check race and horse # if you play .. I do lose a lot more races than I win.. playing in advance, late odds moves and high takeout very hard to overcome .. derby future opinion post 3713 on page 149 (horse plays)
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added oaklawn 10 11
good time to say that I don't acknowledge bad days or report good ones.. you have to manage your money and remain on an even keel.. not saying you'll do well if you apply that to me but it's the only way to approach this game over the long haul.. has been a bad spell of late_______________________________________________
( ) in football and baskets is avg ats or ou margin..baseball it's avg odds and run differential for sides and totals..winners and late scratches usually not recognized in the horse thread but on occasion will mention.. always double check race and horse # if you play .. I do lose a lot more races than I win.. playing in advance, late odds moves and high takeout very hard to overcome .. derby future opinion post 3713 on page 149 (horse plays)
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Hey bleeker, how you doing. Got a couple of long time horse players coming over to join this forum, hope you guys get together on some of this stuff. Don't know much about the ponies but I always think to myself these guys know how to read a racing form if that makes any sense, lol.Comment
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im gonna start posting some horse plays as well.
Will probably just keep it in my thread for record
keeping purposes.
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Originally posted by Thomas View Post
sounds good thomas.. anybody's welcome to post picks in here_______________________________________________
( ) in football and baskets is avg ats or ou margin..baseball it's avg odds and run differential for sides and totals..winners and late scratches usually not recognized in the horse thread but on occasion will mention.. always double check race and horse # if you play .. I do lose a lot more races than I win.. playing in advance, late odds moves and high takeout very hard to overcome .. derby future opinion post 3713 on page 149 (horse plays)
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Originally posted by Nutter6 View Post
you're welcome to post here nutter if it's in 1 or 2 posts.. don't want mine to get lost lol_______________________________________________
( ) in football and baskets is avg ats or ou margin..baseball it's avg odds and run differential for sides and totals..winners and late scratches usually not recognized in the horse thread but on occasion will mention.. always double check race and horse # if you play .. I do lose a lot more races than I win.. playing in advance, late odds moves and high takeout very hard to overcome .. derby future opinion post 3713 on page 149 (horse plays)
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going to put up will rogers (2:15) and fonner park (5:00) by 1pm..these are small tracks that you should go lighter on if you do play..a little entertainment_______________________________________________
( ) in football and baskets is avg ats or ou margin..baseball it's avg odds and run differential for sides and totals..winners and late scratches usually not recognized in the horse thread but on occasion will mention.. always double check race and horse # if you play .. I do lose a lot more races than I win.. playing in advance, late odds moves and high takeout very hard to overcome .. derby future opinion post 3713 on page 149 (horse plays)
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going to put up will rogers (2:15) and fonner park (5:00) by 1pm..these are small tracks that you should go lighter on if you do play..a little entertainment
R1 #11 hong kong helen (8-5)
R2 #6 added attraction (6-1)before broberg this horse was 1/27..since the claim 4/7 with 1 second (by a half length) one of the 2 out of the money's was on a muddy track.. gritty horse will knock heads on the front end or sit a little off the pace.. other than horse is stepping up don't think you'll see 6-1
R3 #5 valiant appeal (3-1)
R7 #9 casino queen (8-1)
R9 #4 she's all wolfe (5-2) probably odds on
R10 #2 righteous mover (7-2)
5 race career and the addition of blinkers and drop in class have made a big difference... 3rd off the layoff drops one more level (don't see that as troublesome considering what she cost).. trainer also excellent at that and overall..average jock who's fantastic when riding for this guy.. not going to get a great price with all this going on but looks very solid and think the 5 will be bet we'll in spite of the (6-1) ml
gonna look at fonner park later
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R1 #6 obvi (4-1)
R2 #1 prince olaf (8-1)
R3 #1 oneprettything (12-1)
R5 #6 american league (3-1)
R7 #6 starling (8-1) don't get ml
R8 #3 legendary larry (12-1)
R9 #2 harmony grove (5-1)Last edited by bleeker; 04-20-2020, 06:14 PM._______________________________________________
( ) in football and baskets is avg ats or ou margin..baseball it's avg odds and run differential for sides and totals..winners and late scratches usually not recognized in the horse thread but on occasion will mention.. always double check race and horse # if you play .. I do lose a lot more races than I win.. playing in advance, late odds moves and high takeout very hard to overcome .. derby future opinion post 3713 on page 149 (horse plays)
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( ) in football and baskets is avg ats or ou margin..baseball it's avg odds and run differential for sides and totals..winners and late scratches usually not recognized in the horse thread but on occasion will mention.. always double check race and horse # if you play .. I do lose a lot more races than I win.. playing in advance, late odds moves and high takeout very hard to overcome .. derby future opinion post 3713 on page 149 (horse plays)
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My buddy sent me some info for today's Will Roger, I never played there. But I thought I would share if anyone does.
Bet an Exacta: 5,7 on top with 2,5,7,9 in
second
Race 4: Yes, #3 Nocturnal Mission (1-1 ML) is far and away the best horse in this field and should absolutely crush them. That said, #1 Lucia Gal (20-1 ML) has a sneaky look at a monster price. Her trainer wins with a shocking 40% of his horses second time off the lay-off, and has a nice ROI in this category. If you're looking at her past performances, take a look at the similarities between her first start here last year and her first start this year. In both races (both on April 15th) she was allowed to gallop around the track and get ready for her next start. She won that second start off the layoff last year, and we think she'll run a better race today as well. This is a nice spot for a gamble.
Bet #1 to Win and Place
Exacta Box: 1&3
Race 5: #9 Leighton Kentucky (8-1 ML) looks to be a little too big of a price on the morning line for a horse who has run credibly in both local starts, and has a nice running style for a winning barn.
Bet #9 to Win and Place
Race 7: It looks like the favorite #3 Sweet Mary M (2-1 ML) is simply the best horse in the race. We're hoping a few others in here can keep her price fair.
Bet #3 to Win Exacta Key Box: 3 with 2,8,9,11
Race 8: This isn't a great race, but #1 Rookie Season (3-1 ML) looks capable, and has never been out of the money in 4 stars over the track. #3 Jazz Music (5-1 ML) will take some money for top trainer Rob Diodoro.
Bet #1 to Win and Place
Exacta Box: 1&3
Race 10: This race is the bottom of the barrel, #12 Tap and Spin (15-1 ML) has been showing absolutely nothing while facing much better at Oaklawn, and goes out today for a winning jockey/trainer team. If she has any talent, we should see it today.
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