horse plays

[bleeker]

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Ok sounds good bleeker. Was wondering do you follow Belmont after Saratoga is done ??

yes I do jim.. all the major circuits (ny, ky, ca and gulf winter meet) and going to continue to concentrating on maidens and stakes.. going to also look at the short kentucky downs meet
that starts friday.. you really need to get lucky there with the field sizes and track layout.. but with the purses being more than double the major tracks they attract top talent.. i'm not a big fan of stakes races overall but occasionally see something and of course the breeders cup and triple crown races always like to take a shot


will change the signature at the bottom to reflect that when these meets are over

[Jim13]

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Thanks bleeker, yeah i forgot about Kentucky downs! I like it, turf races like the UK, funky track. Like you said usual good fields and payouts. If I see anything ill post it. Also the site you messaged me about while back, its not working, is it for you? Had some good info. Thanks

[bleeker]

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Thanks bleeker, yeah i forgot about Kentucky downs! I like it, turf races like the UK, funky track. Like you said usual good fields and payouts. If I see anything ill post it. Also the site you messaged me about while back, its not working, is it for you? Had some good info. Thanks

ok jim..i'll pm you about that

[bleeker]

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saratoga.. wednesday

R1 #1 ocean ready (8-1) steeplechase
R3 #6 anne dupree (3-1)

[bleeker]

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saratoga

R2

#6 chantry flats (10-1) scratch
#8 carom (8-1) half unit scratch

both fit my ex/ped angle and both also ran halfway decent
last out on the turf..like that mine (6)was coming off a long layoff and was on the lead in a fast pace last out and held pretry well..should benefit from that effort..the others 2 tries were decent and jose ortiz rides..interesting that franco (6's jockey) rode the 8 in his only 2 starts and elects to ride the other..I think it's because he does a lot more business with that trainer than the lower volume trainer of the 8 ,ribauldo



R5 #3 fiveinthemorning (6-1)

5 career starts and 2 good sprint efforts..others without getting specific there are legit excuses..castellano jumps aboard and he's 2 for 3 with this trainer past 60 days


R7

#4 poppy's destiny (9-2) fts

pedex lol.. extremely expensive for pedigree.. dam was a stakes winner but it was at northland park..


#1 wild boar (12-1) fts half unit

pedex with a way above average first out sire.. above avg dam sire and dam was a winner.. if other too low this one a nice bet at a price


R10 #8 lem me tell ya (15-1)this is a decent field of maidens .. his lines are not bad at all and wouldn't be shocked at all if he took it



del mar

R4 #1 irish spirit (12-1)

a $310k curlin stretching out for his 2nd start..even with how expensive curlin is as a sire that's a lot of money..this horse was bought as a yearling in 2016 and his fee was lower than making the price more meaningful.. the stud fee they paid in 2015 was $25k and his current fee is $150k..obviously curlin's done well (I am bad at remembering specific horses).. trainer mccarthy good in many applicable categories today.. rail is excellent in routes at dmr



R8 #4 dislitleaglecanfly (5-1) also #6 grecian fort (20-1) half unit

[bleeker]

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added R5

[Jim13]

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Bleeker signed up for the remaining Saratoga selections from - worthhandicapping.com just wanted to try them out. Here is what they sent for the day:

8-30-18saratoga
1st
#3 satin sheets 2-1 mline
I am asking 4-1 for win (7/2 for 1 unt for me)
i am planning place-show wager for every unt place, leveraging 2.5 unt show
horse to watch
#6 my won love
5/2 mline
consdiering 1/2 unt ex. box 3-6
1/2 unt 6 over 3

2nd TURF
preferable if on turf
#1 entry
flat #1 frontier
#1a strategic outlook
6/5 MLINE
if both parts go, I am planning place/show wager
for every unt place, planning 2.5-3 unt show

4th
#5 devine entry
7/2mline
not bowled over here
i would ask 5-1 or> for win; may include small show

5th turf
#7 paz the win
7/2 mline
#14 ANDRETTA 3-1 mline
consdiering 1/2 unt ex. box 7-14
1-1.5 unt win #14@9/2
1 unt win #7 @6-1 or>
i may include mid-range show #14

6th
turf
much preferable if on turf
if off turf, i will likely reduce by 40-50%
#6 your only man
7/2 mline
i am asking 3-1 for win (5/2 1 unt)
7-8 unt show
horse to watch
#9 hieroglyphics
9/2mline
1-1.5 unt win #9 @5-1 or>
consdiering 1/2 unt ex. box 9=6

7th
2 year olds
#2 grammi dance 3-1 mline
#11 riken 12-1 mline
#12 quick change 10-1 mline
#8 tapit tango 8-1 mline
i am asking 9/2 for win #2
1/2 unt to 1 unt win #11 @10-1 or>
if you wish to consdier a 4 horse ex. box i would ask for MLINE avg. or>

9th non graded stakes
turf
#1 dog tag 6-1 mline
i am asking for 10-1 for win
horse to watch
#7 MINTD
5/2 mline
cosndiering ex. box
asking 6-1 for show dutching on #1
asking 2-1 for show dutching #7
3.5 unt
and 7 unt respectively

10th
#7 suas 7/2 mline
horses to watch
#1 entry
#1a ready to escape stronger of the 2
#1 light the posse
4-1 mline
#11 santo antoni0 10-1 mline
askign 3-1 for win #7
5-6 unt show #7
i metnion the others mainly if you wish an exotic
#11 i may include 'saver' win @10- 1 or>
'saver' is approx. 12-14 % of total wager amount

Seems to be good with money management, but alot if show wagers??

[bleeker]

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added R7

[bleeker]

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Bleeker signed up for the remaining Saratoga selections from - worthhandicapping.com just wanted to try them out. Here is what they sent for the day:

8-30-18saratoga
1st
#3 satin sheets 2-1 mline
I am asking 4-1 for win (7/2 for 1 unt for me)
i am planning place-show wager for every unt place, leveraging 2.5 unt show
horse to watch
#6 my won love
5/2 mline
consdiering 1/2 unt ex. box 3-6
1/2 unt 6 over 3

2nd TURF
preferable if on turf
#1 entry
flat #1 frontier
#1a strategic outlook
6/5 MLINE
if both parts go, I am planning place/show wager
for every unt place, planning 2.5-3 unt show

4th
#5 devine entry
7/2mline
not bowled over here
i would ask 5-1 or> for win; may include small show

5th turf
#7 paz the win
7/2 mline
#14 ANDRETTA 3-1 mline
consdiering 1/2 unt ex. box 7-14
1-1.5 unt win #14@9/2
1 unt win #7 @6-1 or>
i may include mid-range show #14

6th
turf
much preferable if on turf
if off turf, i will likely reduce by 40-50%
#6 your only man
7/2 mline
i am asking 3-1 for win (5/2 1 unt)
7-8 unt show
horse to watch
#9 hieroglyphics
9/2mline
1-1.5 unt win #9 @5-1 or>
consdiering 1/2 unt ex. box 9=6

7th
2 year olds
#2 grammi dance 3-1 mline
#11 riken 12-1 mline
#12 quick change 10-1 mline
#8 tapit tango 8-1 mline
i am asking 9/2 for win #2
1/2 unt to 1 unt win #11 @10-1 or>
if you wish to consdier a 4 horse ex. box i would ask for MLINE avg. or>

9th non graded stakes
turf
#1 dog tag 6-1 mline
i am asking for 10-1 for win
horse to watch
#7 MINTD
5/2 mline
cosndiering ex. box
asking 6-1 for show dutching on #1
asking 2-1 for show dutching #7
3.5 unt
and 7 unt respectively

10th
#7 suas 7/2 mline
horses to watch
#1 entry
#1a ready to escape stronger of the 2
#1 light the posse
4-1 mline
#11 santo antoni0 10-1 mline
askign 3-1 for win #7
5-6 unt show #7
i metnion the others mainly if you wish an exotic
#11 i may include 'saver' win @10- 1 or>
'saver' is approx. 12-14 % of total wager amount

Seems to be good with money management, but alot if show wagers??

yeah he's a lot different than simple me.. have a tough time with betting show, dutching (know what that is) and having to watch the odds is not practical for a lot of people..guess that might be called what they are.. I'll check out the site though

[bleeker]

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[bleeker]

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saratoga


R1 #3 that's smart (8-1)
R3 #4 my mr wonderful (5-2)


R5 #9 altar of speed (10-1)

[bleeker]

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[bleeker]

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kentucky downs . saturday

6 days of top quality racing on a european style turf course.. big fields and purses.. opening day tomorrow then 2nd not till middle-late next week


R1 #3 campaign (5-1) msw $130k 1½ miles

ran 2nd on a sloppy track at saratoga last year in his debut as a 2yo.. didn't resurface again till july at ellis park and did little in that race.. considering this guy is a 675k yearling purchase by curlin and out of a dynaformer mare (very stout and classy) they'd probably rather win here for $130k purse than take down less than ⅓ of that at ellis park (not to mention a ho-hum achievement winning there).. breaking your maiden at 1½ miles on the turf a special accomplishment and have a hunch they've been pointing towards this all along


R2 #5 i am miss brown (8-1)


< R3 #1 fifth title (5-1)

< R3 #6 spikes shirl (15-1)

< same race

R4 #11 cash out (7-2)
R5 #8 convict (10-1)




saratoga

R1 #3 lion dance (6-1)
R3 #7 raising the flag (6-1)


R10 the spinaway stakes 2yo fillies.. grade I

#7 chasing yesterday (5-2)

won impressively in debut at dmr.. be no value and just rooting for pharaoh's little half sister by #1 sire tapit

R11 the woodward 3 up ...grade I

#9 gunnevera (4-1)

ran similar race at GP last year prior to coming up here and running a solid 2nd in the travers with a tough trip.. layed an egg in dubai before that but I'll give him a break on that.. feel he's had some excuses, chased much better horses late summer last year into winter this year.. my other would be #4 TAPWRIT (6-1)..id go $20 win #9 and $5 ex box 49 if I were playing




del mar

R9 #2 admiral brown (10-1) 2yo msw

baffert has 2 huge pedigree fts (the other #8)..his credentials look just as good if not better than the other's


R11 #4 giveherdalute (5-1) fts 2yo msw

full sister to gimmedalute lol who won 6 of 9 and over $600k and was 2/2 at dmr..another baffert of course