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  • Re: horse plays

    Originally posted by FRAOLI4444 View Post
    thanks


    R4 scratch
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    ( ) in football and baskets is avg ats or ou margin..baseball it's avg odds and run differential for sides and totals..winners and late scratches usually not recognized in the horse thread but on occasion will mention.. always double check race and horse # if you play .. I do lose a lot more races than I win.. playing in advance, late odds moves and high takeout very hard to overcome .. derby future opinion post 3713 on page 149 (horse plays)

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    • Re: horse plays

      finished saratoga
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      ( ) in football and baskets is avg ats or ou margin..baseball it's avg odds and run differential for sides and totals..winners and late scratches usually not recognized in the horse thread but on occasion will mention.. always double check race and horse # if you play .. I do lose a lot more races than I win.. playing in advance, late odds moves and high takeout very hard to overcome .. derby future opinion post 3713 on page 149 (horse plays)

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      • Re: horse plays

        little recap but won't normally do this...

        * 2 first time starters (31-1) (37-1) nothing

        * 3 horses between 2 and 5-1.. one 3rd @ 5-2 missed 2nd by a nose and < 1 length from winner

        * 1 even money came 3rd and < 1 length from winner


        * R7 my horse was 10-1 and ran 7th by <3 lengths .. had lots of trouble in the stretch and imo would've come at least 3rd and possibly won with a little better luck .. watch replay if you can



        * 2 scratches
        Last edited by bleeker; 07-11-2019, 05:20 PM.
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        ( ) in football and baskets is avg ats or ou margin..baseball it's avg odds and run differential for sides and totals..winners and late scratches usually not recognized in the horse thread but on occasion will mention.. always double check race and horse # if you play .. I do lose a lot more races than I win.. playing in advance, late odds moves and high takeout very hard to overcome .. derby future opinion post 3713 on page 149 (horse plays)

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        • Re: horse plays

          I watched the races i have saratoga on my cable race 7 he had no room boxed in he would have finished in the money if no trouble
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          • Re: horse plays

            Yeah Bleeker with a little more luck / way through the lane I say he would of got at least 2nd. Maybe keep him in mind next start? I believe the jock this is his first full time at the Saratoga meet? I like his agent the old jock miglore. He was killer for me at aqueduct ! Those jocks were sweet ! Chavez, day, Bailey (even when he cost me a pick6 with his disqualification!) He was my favor jock.

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            • Re: horse plays

              Originally posted by Jim13 View Post
              Yeah Bleeker with a little more luck / way through the lane I say he would of got at least 2nd. Maybe keep him in mind next start? I believe the jock this is his first full time at the Saratoga meet? I like his agent the old jock miglore. He was killer for me at aqueduct ! Those jocks were sweet ! Chavez, day, Bailey (even when he cost me a pick6 with his disqualification!) He was my favor jock.

              not only at the end, where he really had to be taken up, but towards the top of the stretch the gap closed.. if he gets through there probably home or just misses.. had a ton of horse.. yes he's definitely a good follow up


              not sure if it's gaffalione's first full meet up here but could be.. may have heard migliore was his agent before but if you asked me wouldn't have known.. mig, chop chop and of course one of the all time greats jerry bailey (guess that's who you're referring to with the p6).. and pat rode probably one of the best horses of the last 20th century easy goer.. 30 years ago he battled through the triple crown races vs sunday silence..that was about 3 years before the beyers were published in the form (actually they first appeared in the short lived racing times before it went under)..andy said easy goer was probably the fastest horse since he started making his figures back in the early 70's other than secretariat
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              ( ) in football and baskets is avg ats or ou margin..baseball it's avg odds and run differential for sides and totals..winners and late scratches usually not recognized in the horse thread but on occasion will mention.. always double check race and horse # if you play .. I do lose a lot more races than I win.. playing in advance, late odds moves and high takeout very hard to overcome .. derby future opinion post 3713 on page 149 (horse plays)

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              • Re: horse plays

                Originally posted by FRAOLI4444 View Post
                I watched the races i have saratoga on my cable race 7 he had no room boxed in he would have finished in the money if no trouble

                yeah believe so fraoli.. hey sometimes you're on the other horse and glad that happened to someone else.. luck is definitely part of the equation but if you have the right idea often enough hopefully that balances out over the long run.. btw if you get the "nyra now" app you can see replays and watch live ..terrific app
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                ( ) in football and baskets is avg ats or ou margin..baseball it's avg odds and run differential for sides and totals..winners and late scratches usually not recognized in the horse thread but on occasion will mention.. always double check race and horse # if you play .. I do lose a lot more races than I win.. playing in advance, late odds moves and high takeout very hard to overcome .. derby future opinion post 3713 on page 149 (horse plays)

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                • Re: horse plays

                  Originally posted by bleeker View Post
                  yeah believe so fraoli.. hey sometimes you're on the other horse and glad that happened to someone else.. luck is definitely part of the equation but if you have the right idea often enough hopefully that balances out over the long run.. btw if you get the "nyra now" app you can see replays and watch live ..terrific app
                  Thanks bleeker
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                  2013
                  GOY 1-0 Mississippi +9.5 Over LSU 27-24

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                  • Re: horse plays

                    Originally posted by FRAOLI4444 View Post
                    Thanks bleeker

                    no problem fraoli



                    saratoga (good or better to play dirt)

                    R1 #3 derby memories (6-1)

                    R2 #4 prince of new york (20-1)

                    scheduled for turf but I'd play on dirt also

                    R4 #4 kahramani (5-1)

                    R5 #4 lotta ott (3-1)


                    expensive for his pedigree.. by a new sire and by an all sprint dam sire.. working sharp for asmussen.. reward won't be great but have a hunch this is a live one
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                    ( ) in football and baskets is avg ats or ou margin..baseball it's avg odds and run differential for sides and totals..winners and late scratches usually not recognized in the horse thread but on occasion will mention.. always double check race and horse # if you play .. I do lose a lot more races than I win.. playing in advance, late odds moves and high takeout very hard to overcome .. derby future opinion post 3713 on page 149 (horse plays)

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                    • Re: horse plays

                      Some w/p plays I am doing today for Saratoga today

                      R1 - 1 Arguto if at least 8-1

                      R4 - 9 Big Muddy

                      R5 -1 Apurate

                      R9 - 4 Offering Plan if at least 4-1

                      GL guys

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                      • Re: horse plays

                        saratoga

                        R1 #4 ramblin' ma'am (15-1)
                        R2 #7 honorable profit (15-1)
                        R4 #5 vaya con dios (12-1)
                        R6 #2 decorated invader (4-1)
                        R8 #1 blahnik (15-1)
                        R10 #8 hersh (4-1)
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                        ( ) in football and baskets is avg ats or ou margin..baseball it's avg odds and run differential for sides and totals..winners and late scratches usually not recognized in the horse thread but on occasion will mention.. always double check race and horse # if you play .. I do lose a lot more races than I win.. playing in advance, late odds moves and high takeout very hard to overcome .. derby future opinion post 3713 on page 149 (horse plays)

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                        • Re: horse plays

                          good luck
                          Originally posted by bleeker View Post
                          saratoga

                          R1 #4 ramblin' ma'am (15-1)
                          R2 #7 honorable profit (15-1)
                          R4 #5 vaya con dios (12-1)
                          R6 #2 decorated invader (4-1)
                          R8 #1 blahnik (15-1)
                          R10 #8 hersh (4-1)
                          2011 Winner of TIS college football contest
                          2012 - 2013
                          NBA 33-18-1
                          MLB 16-12
                          NFL 27-13-1
                          CFB 12-11
                          CBB 9-2
                          MLB 2013 2-0
                          NHL 1-0

                          2013
                          GOY 1-0 Mississippi +9.5 Over LSU 27-24

                          2018
                          NFL 0-1

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                          • Re: horse plays

                            think most people understand this but just as a reminder if i'm picking high odds horses i expect them to lose along the lines of what the odds are..for example 20-1's over the long haul hoping to avg a win once every 17-18 times..30-1's once every 25-28 times
                            ..10-1's once every 8-9 times..2nd's of course will happen more often but the point is expect to lose a lot more often than you will win with these longshot and lengthy bad streaks are inevitable..I have to see something I like to recommend them and don't just toss them out there with a "what the heck" type attitude..important to have realistic expectations with these long odds horses
                            Last edited by bleeker; 07-14-2019, 07:28 AM.
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                            ( ) in football and baskets is avg ats or ou margin..baseball it's avg odds and run differential for sides and totals..winners and late scratches usually not recognized in the horse thread but on occasion will mention.. always double check race and horse # if you play .. I do lose a lot more races than I win.. playing in advance, late odds moves and high takeout very hard to overcome .. derby future opinion post 3713 on page 149 (horse plays)

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                            • Re: horse plays

                              saratoga

                              R1 #10 morning gold (8-1)

                              horse cost an extraordinary amount of money for his pedigree.. fast workouts spaced a week apart datng all the way back to mid may.. solid trainer who is terrible with debut horses but need a little something to throw the public off..i'll go with the positives and give it a go


                              R2 #7 passcode (3-1)


                              R3 #7 bears mafia (8-1)


                              R4 #1 titan's will (4-1)

                              R5 #3 retro street (8-1)
                              _______________________________________________
                              ( ) in football and baskets is avg ats or ou margin..baseball it's avg odds and run differential for sides and totals..winners and late scratches usually not recognized in the horse thread but on occasion will mention.. always double check race and horse # if you play .. I do lose a lot more races than I win.. playing in advance, late odds moves and high takeout very hard to overcome .. derby future opinion post 3713 on page 149 (horse plays)

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                              • Re: horse plays

                                delaware


                                R5 #8 dig in (8-1)



                                louisiana downs (6:39)


                                R6 #2 hanging lake (7-2)
                                Last edited by bleeker; 07-15-2019, 04:33 PM.
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                                ( ) in football and baskets is avg ats or ou margin..baseball it's avg odds and run differential for sides and totals..winners and late scratches usually not recognized in the horse thread but on occasion will mention.. always double check race and horse # if you play .. I do lose a lot more races than I win.. playing in advance, late odds moves and high takeout very hard to overcome .. derby future opinion post 3713 on page 149 (horse plays)

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